“America This Week” hosted by Eric Bolling interviews Judy Mikovits, author of “Plandemic”– crazy conspiracy theories about SARS-COV-2
sars-cov-2 budding from apoptotic cells–EM by NIAID
Media Matters and CNN report (updated July 25) that local news stations owned by Sinclair Broadcasting intend to air a segment of “America This Week” hosted by Eric Bolling that will interview Judy Mikovits, a former virology researcher and discredited conspiracy theorist who is the brains behind the crazy video “Plandemic.”
Mikovits and her attorney, Larry Klayman, apparently plan to sue Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of NIAID (the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases) for… a RICO (Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) violation (seriously?)
One of her most insane claims is that Dr. Anthony Fauci is responsible for manufacturing SARS-COV-2 in the US and that he transported it to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
As noted elsewhere, there is no evidence for the claim that the virus was somehow man-made. All responsible scientists with any expertise in the field agree that the virus is a natural development through random mutation and “survival of the fittest”– which makes it even more dangerous than if it were man-made.
I won’t go into all (or even any) of the other false statements that she makes and the misrepresentations of her credentials. I have discussed some of them on previous posts on this blog. I will say that this is one of the most insane and dangerous conspiracy theories out there, almost as bad as those behind QAnon (which is saying a lot.)
Mikovits and lawyer Klayman make many allegations which have been debunked, for example, by FactCheck.org here on May 8. Another post debunking many (if not all) of the allegations was this one by Science on their sciencemag.org website.
The host of the program, Eric Bolling, claims to be skeptical and doesn’t actually endorse the theories of this Judy Mikovits. He does give her airtime to make her claims and doesn’t come right out and say “you’re crazy.” Just having her on the air and interviewing her will spread her conspiracy theories.
No-one who understands the way this craziness spreads would invite her to speak and insert doubt into the minds of naive and gullible viewers, without a full-on denunciation of everything she says.
To avoid making this insane point of view more popular, we should avoid it and its adherents like the plague. The people who run “America This Week” want to draw more viewers by airing controversial viewpoints, but this is too dangerous to even mention on the air.
The very business model of these companies (Sinclair Broadcasting and Facebook, to take two examples) relies on the airing of extreme, controversial statements to draw attention and views. Apparently people like to be shocked, and some of them believe the crazy.
We might as well give airtime to people who say “the world is flat” and “the noise from windmills causes cancer”– oh, wait, we already do that. Isn’t this something like shouting “Fire” in a crowded theatre when there is no fire? The First Amendment doesn’t cover that.
My big question: who is bankrolling this? Who is paying the expenses for Ms. Mikovits and her lawyer? Who convinced Sinclair Broadcasting to air this interview? If they are Americans and not Russians, then they are traitors to this country because they are only making things worse for all of us.
Conrad Theodore Seitz 
What are they afraid of. The MSM lies on a day basis.Their lies about Trump, BLM, riots became so conflicting I did my own research. I just don’t watch the liars and the ones who have an agenda. if you believe you have the truth on your side you should welcome debate to disprove the one you disagree with. Its called honest debate. True journalism. I will debunk your article. She didn’t produce Plandemic. She never said it was a man made virus. You can look online for yourself ( I assume you already did this) UNC at Chapel Hill published a study in 2015 in collaboration with Wuhan Lab from China on a chimera virus made of SARS COV 2 and backbone of mice. It behaved the same way as covid and they could never treat It or vaccinate it. She is a brilliant research scientist who is upheld by many world renown scientists. One being a Nobel peace prize recipient. Unfortunately they are labeled conspiracy theorists also and are thrown off the proproganda machines of YouTube, MSM.I found her books plaque and plaque by corruption very credible and confirmed by many.
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First, I did not say that Mikovits “produced” Plandemic— I said she was “the brains behind” it. The difference is that “producer” is a person who shows up in the credits as the producer. Mikovits is the person whose claims started the whole thing off. She says (in the video) that “wealthy people intentionally spread the virus to increase vaccination rates and that wearing face masks is harmful.” She also, years before this, “doubled down on debunked theories linking retroviruses that originated in mice to medical conditions such as chronic fatigue syndrome and autism.”
Now, maybe she didn’t personally say that Fauci built the virus and transferred it to China, but there was this in the Media Matters post I linked to: “Bolling gave Mikovits and Klayman — who has peddled various conspiracy theories of his own in past decades — free rein to make baseless accusations against Fauci, such as that he “manufactured the coronaviruses” and shipped them to Wuhan, China.”
I don’t have a transcipt of the “Plandemic” video (oh, wait, yes I do– on “Medium”) and look what she says about Ebola (which is arguably worse than SARS-COV-2): “In 1999, I was working in Fort Detrick in USAMRIID there. And my job was to teach Ebola how to infect human cells without killing them. Ebola couldn’t infect human cells until we took it in the laboratories and taught them.” She implied that the Army rebuilt Ebola to infect humans– unless you have another interpretation of that statement?
I apologize for saying that she said that particular falsehood– I couldn’t find it in the transcripts available to me. But someone else in the video said it, and she said something even worse– implying that she was somehow responsible for weaponizing Ebola.
It goes downhill. She claimed that facemasks are detrimental. That’s news to people who have been wearing them for many years without noticing any problems. One person even posted a video showing that her O2 levels didn’t go down when she wore a mask– anyone can replicate that test with a pulse oximeter (widely available without a prescription) if they’re worried about it. “Activating your own virus” makes no sense. The virus was already active when you exhaled it, and it’s not going to be any more active when you re-inhale it.
Now, wealthy people are contributing to the spread of the virus but not intentionally and not the way you think– they’re making it worse by keeping all the money and letting everyone else go down the tubes. Worse, it’s not increasing vaccination rates and it’s not going to be mandatory when the coronavirus vaccine comes out. Vaccination rates have gone down precipitously, the places that were giving them– private pediatrician’s offices– are going out of business and getting bankrupted, and kids are going to be more susceptible to measles (a far worse disease than coronavirus) and influenza if/when they go back to school.
(Continued in part 2)
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Here’s some more things from the transcript that I object to:
“Dr. Judy Mikovits has been called one of the most accomplished scientists of her generation. Her 1991 doctoral thesis revolutionized the treatment of HIV/AIDS. ” Mikovits is NOT “one of the most accomplished scientists” unless you say “one of” means including those who have had their reputations trashed by publishing research that is retracted for “one of” the worst possible reasons: contaminated samples that you didn’t check for.
By the way, her motive for publishing that was so she could do what Whittemore wanted: 1) say that a virus caused CFS/ME; 2) make a test for it that they could charge an arm and a leg for. That’s what they did: make a test that supposedly detected XMRV in blood samples, market it to families of affected patients, and charge big bucks (I forget how much but you can look it up if you’re such a good literature searcher.)
Here’s a link to Science magazine’s “detailed deconstruction” of the XMRV fiasco from 2011: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/333/6050/1694.full.pdf … read it and weep. It doesn’t sound like she’s “one of the most accomplished scientists” does it?
Here’s a reddit page from the debunker camp: https://www.reddit.com/r/CovIdiots/comments/gezery/plandemic_documentary_debunked/ … unfortunately, I could only read the first paragraph because my screen was “inexplicably” grayed out after fifteen seconds or so. I tried again. It looks as if they didn’t like her.
I was trying to find an abstract for her PhD thesis that they claimed “revolutionized the treatment of AIDS”… but I found something better: another blog on WordPress called “667-per-cm.nt” which has a post really breaking down “Plandemic” sentence by sentence.
It says her PhD thesis “had no discernible impact” on the treatment of AIDS. https://667-per-cm.net/2020/05/10/dissection-of-the-dr-judy-mikovits-claims-in-aaas-science/
The “blockbuster article” she published in Science “at the height of her career”? Well, it didn’t show what they said it showed. It only claimed that there was a link between CFS/ME and a mouse retrovirus.
Next (reading along with 667 per cm), Mikovits says, “I was part of the team that isolated HIV from the saliva and blood of the patients from France”– well, she wasn’t. She was a lab technician in Francis Ruscetti’s lab at National Cancer Institute (NCI.) She tries to bring in the problems between Gallo and the French researchers, and there were some problems all right, but that’s unrelated to this story and she wasn’t involved in it except as a technician in another lab down the hall, so to speak.
667 says: “Her first published paper, co-authored with Ruscetti, was on HIV and published in May 1986, 2 years after Science published four landmark papers that linked HIV (then called HTLV-III by Gallo’s lab) to AIDS. Ruscetti’s first paper on HIV appeared in August 1985. There is no evidence that Fauci held up either paper or that this led to the death of millions.”
And then she says: “they’ll kill millions, as they already have with their vaccines. ” No. Vaccines have saved millions; the number they have killed is small, and even if it was a thousand, that’s a tiny percentage of the number they have saved.
Here’s the closest I’ve gotten (so far) to what I wrote in the blog post:
“Interviewer: Do you believe that this virus [SARS-CoV-2] was created in the laboratory?
Mikovits: I wouldn’t use the word created. But you can’t say naturally occurring if it was by way of the laboratory. So it’s very clear this virus was manipulated. “… (a few sentences, look it up if you’re curious; I’m eliding for brevity, not to hide anything)
“Interviewer: And do you have any ideas of where this occurred?
Mikovits: Oh yeah, I’m sure it occurred between the North Carolina laboratories, Fort Detrick, the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, and the Wuhan laboratory.”
She didn’t blame Fauci in those two question/responses, but she did say the coronavirus was somehow manipulated in a US Army lab… and somewhere between there and the Wuhan lab… and you can fill in the blanks. Fauci comes in before, where he supposedly suppressed HIV research that “led to the deaths of millions”, and after, where he … oh, there’s so much in between, I’m getting distracted. This is where she says:
“Wearing the mask literally activates your own virus.” (This is so absurd that I am at a loss to even explain it, much less debunk it.)
But wait, I left out the part where she says, ” They got at the beginning of 2019 an untested new form of influenza vaccine”, that Italians were given an influenza vaccine made with dog cells “and dogs have lots of coronaviruses.”
To which 667’s narrator says: “There is no evidence that links any influenza vaccine, or a dog coronavirus, to Italy’s COVID-19 epidemic.” And I says, “Untested? What do you mean, ‘untested’– how can the Italian scientists give an ‘untested’ vaccine to their population? It makes no sense. They had to do at least SOME tests. Does she mean it was a new vaccine, not given to general populations before? That happens every year. But I guarantee they tested it in a lot of clinical research subjects before they went and gave it to a bunch of random people off the street.”
It goes on and on like this. Practically everything she says that reflects poorly on Fauci, not to mention the scientific establishment in regards to her research, is either false or misleading. I get tired after reading the misrepresentation of her reputation as “one of the leading scientists of her generation”… I was there (in spirit) back in 2011 when she got fired and then was arrested for stealing notebooks from her former lab. I was reading about her when she fought back by getting the Whittemores in trouble for, I think it was illegal political contributions, or was it tax evasion? I forget but it was a good ploy.
She’s no fool, and she’s latched on to a good thing here: the antiscience community and their fight against vaccines. There’s a lot of money floating around if you talk the talk they’re looking for. What they want is a good propagandist, preferably a white woman (white men are so old-hat and black women are too scary; Asian women out of the question for being too closely associated with Wuhan) who talks well and has a PhD. I don’t know who the rich people are who are against vaccines (I don’t follow the subject as closely as I should) but they are out there and they have been working hard. They even got a white guy from England (Wakefield, it was) who tried to pin autism on vaccines but failed and lost his medical license for it– he’s still a good talker, and people who don’t know his history can be easily fooled.
I could go on, and maybe I should, but there’s “little fires everywhere” and every time I see another one, I feel obligated to use more of my precious anti-flame substances on it.
You got me really started here because you gave me something to fight against. Your problem, first, is that you are in possession of certain truths, but not the whole truth.
Your truths are: first, a lot of science, mainly medical science, is weak. Very weak when we talk about medical science. It’s hard to do medical science; it takes an entire career just to run a study because you have to follow your clinical subjects from birth to death, and you’re inevitably one of your own subjects. It’s like navel-gazing in that it takes up all of your time for the rest of your life.
Second, people in power want to stay in power, and they will use every means they have at hand and can get away with just to stay in power. They don’t care who gets hurt, as long as it’s not them.
Third, Journalism is being starved, especially since the pandemic cut off advertising revenue for local papers. The European model of state support for journalism doesn’t work if the government gets involved to the point of dictating what stories are investigated and published. See Hungary and Poland for examples of the disastrous effect of state support for journalism. (The only source of hope is what is happening in Russia: there, the state runs the TV, but people are turning away from TV for their news and to the internet. The state in Russia isn’t strong enough to control the internet like the state does in China, so people can get at least some news from volunteers on the net. Maybe it will bring democracy without censorship back in Russia. It’s hopeless in China because there never was a model where the state didn’t control everything.)
Finally, your failure of truth is this: you don’t know enough to be skeptical of claims made by people with ulterior motives and/or hidden agendas.
(Continued in Part 3 below.)
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Here’s the final example I’m going to bring up, I promise: you said “You can look online for yourself ( I assume you already did this) UNC at Chapel Hill published a study in 2015 in collaboration with Wuhan Lab from China on a chimera virus made of SARS COV 2 and backbone of mice. It behaved the same way as covid and they could never treat It or vaccinate it.” I didn’t look up that particular article because I’ve been concentrating on SARS-COV-2, and this research that you referenced is about SARS (or SARS-COV-1, if you will)– there never was a SARS-COV-2 back in 2015.
What they said in their abstract was, “we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone.” Not surprisingly, treatments for SARS didn’t work so well: “Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein” Because both treatments they tried were based on antibodies raised against the SARS spike protein, which is different from the SHC014 spike protein. The abstract finishes thusly: “On the basis of these findings, we synthetically re-derived an infectious full-length SHC014 recombinant virus and demonstrate robust viral replication both in vitro and in vivo. Our work suggests a potential risk of SARS-CoV re-emergence from viruses currently circulating in bat populations.”
So you missed a couple of important things about this research, in particular. First, it wasn’t with SARS-COV-2; second, it was entirely in mice. Further research, summarized in Wikipedia, showed that they could infect the human HeLa cell line (this line is derived from a cervical cancer sample taken from Helen Lane, who died of the disease some years ago; the important thing about this line is that it was the first, and I think so far the only, truly immortal cell line that is recognizably human. It is not the same as human cells for many reasons, not least of which is that it is adapted to grow in the lab, not in the human body; it doesn’t have the same immune characteristics, for example, and it has no immune system at all, since it is one type of cell only, no T or B cells, no macrophages, no lymph nodes, etc. etc.)
with the chimera. Wikipedia goes on: “The SL-SHC014-MA15 version of the virus, primarily engineered to infect mice, has been shown to differ 7% (over 5,000 nucleotides) from SARS-CoV-2, the cause of a human pandemic in 2019–2020.[4] However, more studies must be completed to source credible data considering, in 2013, a study was published with accompanying data, which reports over 99% genomic sequence identies between SHC014-CoV and 3367-CoV and four random human coronaviruses.[1]”
What this means is that, the chimera was engineered to infected mice; the fact that it can infect HeLa cells is a bonus but doesn’t mean it’s capable of infecting actual whole human beings– in fact, it’s very unlikely. Also, it is very different from SARS-COV-2, so different that they couldn’t have engineered it further… read reference four:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7054935/ which is titled: “No credible evidence supporting claims of the laboratory engineering of SARS-CoV-2”
Among other things, they treated it with a few things, not remdesivir, that didn’t work, no surprise because the things they tried were based on antibodies to the spike protein that they had taken off and replaced with the spike protein to a circulating bat virus called SHC014. What they were trying to do, which has subsequently been banned, was to create something that didn’t exist in nature as a way of showing that it could develop in nature– as a warning that we could be faced with something that we are faced with.
You are being systematically misled by people with ulterior motives who want you to believe in things that aren’t true so that you won’t believe people who ARE telling you the truth. Their name is Trump, no wait, I mean, Trump is enabling them with his support because he has been faced with a crisis that he has no experience or training, nor any competent advisors that he will listen to, to overcome.
You see, Trump was going to cruise to re-election based on the stock market and the economy, which was doing real well before the pandemic hit. He paid no attention to warnings from scientific advisors or even from non-scientific people who listened to the scientific people (I’m thinking Navarro here, who actually did warn him, one of the few places where Navarro got something right.) If he had listened to those people and had activated the emergency plans which were already available, we wouldn’t be in this spot.
But he didn’t. So, as he has almost instinctively done based on his father’s training, he lied about it. Lying about it means he has to contradict a lot of people. He has already laid the groundwork for it by repeatedly saying things to discredit the main-stream media. Remember that, before the election in 2016, a reporter asked him why he was running down the media, and he told her that he was doing it so that when they reported negative things about him (which happened to be true) that people wouldn’t believe them. He has been doing that all along, with his “enemy of the people” talk, and not just for the media, but for serious people like scientists, fact-checkers, and the like. So now, he has an easier time getting his lies across.
But dead people don’t lie. They stink up the place so that no-one can ignore the fact that people are dying at a much higher rate than normal. Trump and his minions can’t lie away those facts, no matter how much they try to claim things such as the attribution of deaths to COVID-19 is exaggerated. It’s not. If anything, it’s under-reported. If you look at total death rates from this time last year, you’ll see that a lot more people are dying this year. The CDC even has a graph of total death rates by state going back to 2018 that shows increased deaths in December 2018 (from influenza epidemic) and increased deaths in April 2020 (from COVID-19). It’s pretty obvious.
The point is that your first statement, (I’m paraphrasing) “The media lies”, is something that Trump implanted in the “conservative” media ecosystem way back in 2015 in order to make it easier for him to be elected. He needed to cover up his failures: his four (or six?) bankruptcies; his two failed casinos (how does a casino lose money? It’s mathematically impossible for a casino to lose money); his three marriages and his cheating on all three wives (very unpresidential, even if you don’t think it’s serious); the fact that his father gave him the equivalent of $400 million in today’s money tax-free, after putting him on a salary of $215,000 a year at age three, as opposed to his claim that he only got a million dollars from his dad and that was a loan that he had to pay back with interest; his 3,500 lawsuits, many of them against people that he stiffed for work done on his buildings; his claim that his big building was ten stories taller than it really was; and so on and on and on.
So what I’m saying is, you’ve been drinking the Kool-Aid and it’s made you sick.
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